Lynn a white Australian lady wrote----
""Yes....I can vouch for the fact that there is still a racist element in Australia. However, I am in two minds re: the cause of recent attacks on Indians. I rather think that the main reason Indians are attacked is because the Indians who come here are not for the most part, aggressive people, and so are considered a "soft touch" (i.e. easy targets) for thugs who attack not only Indians but white Australians as well (we have a terrible problem with late night attacks on all groups of young people in the CBD at the moment). Basically, these thugs are simply opportunistic thieves or drunks who become aggressive. And yes...some are racists as well, but this seems to be secondary to their main agenda, i.e. to rob people. To put the extent of the racist element into perspective: when the notoriously racist Pauline Hanson first ran for parliament, she secured only 27% of the vote in her home state of Queensland, the most conservative, right-wing state in Australia. However, the existence of racism at any level is, of course, totally unacceptable.

I should add that the thugs in question are of varying ethnic descent...it's not solely a "white Australian" problem. Indeed, a couple of weeks ago I had a young Indian student who was working for a power company call to try to persuade us to change power companies. He became very belligerent when I wouldn't consider even reading the literature he brought with him...because I am satisfied with my existing billing company. However, he's the only aggressive Indian I have encountered here. But I can honestly say that I have never seen an Indian prostitute during the seven years I've lived in Melbourne, nor have I ever experienced problems with Indian or Muslim taxi drivers in the CBD....they have always behaved in a gentlemanly manner, unlike one Greek driver who kept demanding my phone number, making me feel very uncomfortable.

Barbara is quite correct, re: the need for foreign students in this country. And I believe that if we are to continue to attract both foreign students and skilled migrants, then we have a duty to ensure that they are safe. And please rest assured that the authorities will continue to work towards this in Melbourne....the most ethnically-diverse and liveable city in Australia."""

Kind regards,
Lynne.

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From: barbarathyabali whose 3 children are studying there
Hello Dear Captain,

This is all a big joke on the international market.Without legal 900,000 Asian students, Australian $ will go with the wind!!!!!!!!!!!Another un accounted 999,000 Asian students all round Australia doing odd one month , three months and six months diploma courses just to be in Australia and gain the PR status on the long run, is being encouraged by whom????????????????

Racialism is the name of the game, and its a shame to deny this , here are two Australians who can tell you more, One an original Ozie: Mrs Lynne Hadley from Melbourne prowse@hotmail.com and here is an Indian born , Anglo Ozie called Mark Suares from Bangalore: marksuares@hotmail.com if you need many more Australians who can vouch that racialism is a problem in Australia then I can forward you more email.

On the whole, Australia is a fine country, and the government has to do something to stop this growth of racialism fast, or they will be sorry when the AUD $ stops or drops soon enough, with our Asian students backing out and returning to India to do their higher studies in due course of time.

Bye and God Bless, don't forget to pray for the safety of our Indian students who are still there and have invested a great deal to get there and to remain there till date.

Barbara

bjsamuhanand wrote---
Hi all,
The following article appeared in a Pakistani Army supported website and also posted in UPI news site.
This could not be posted without colllution between Pakistan and Australian governments.
I like to have your opinion.
Thanks.

Do Australians hate Indians?
by Moin ansari (UPI)
New York, NY, United States, June 04 — Many Australians say it takes two to tango. The Aussies believe that the carping in the Indian media is exaggerated and counterproductive. Australians react to the 80,000 (what they call) "smelly" Indians on campuses with "dot busting."

Indian students are ubiquitous on Australian campuses, but they have not assimilated into the Australian way of life. On many occasions, they have violated their visa status and have started to permeate the landscape around the campuses in search of menial jobs. No less than 80,000 students on a few dozen campuses makes them highly visible.

In a slowing economy, there is a growing tide of anti-Indian feeling among the Aussies. Many Australians feel that complaints by Indian students are exaggerated and hide the real truth, which usually stems from domestic disputes, lewd behaviour, drunkenness or theft of property. The Australian police do not accept the Indian claim that racism is involved. Some of the female Indian "students" have been caught as prostitutes, and there is the general perception that many of the Indian students sell drugs in Australia. Some Australians have accused the Indians of using black magic for seduction purposes. Australian students also accuse Indians of cheating on exams and whispering answers in Hindi and other languages not understood by Australians.

A portion of the Australian population feels that they are being overwhelmed by India. Many Aussies accuse Indians of forcing their Indian culture onto campuses by celebrating their hundreds of festivals and cooking their foods in inappropriate places like hallways and TV lounges.

Sydney's beaches are full of the drunk Indian students ogling and harassing the women. The Australians also accuse Indians of gender bias and mistreating female instructors. One of the "attacked" Indian males was soliciting sex for money. Being gay in India is frowned upon. Many gay Indian students visit the seedy parts of town seeking gay activity. Not knowing the Australian culture, sometimes they end up in the wrong part of town and end up in trouble.

Many Indian students do not own cars, so they walk on streets in the wee hours of the morning, something totally alien to Australian culture. They are sometimes mistaken for drug dealers or thieves. Many Australians are armed. There have been cases when the Indians tried to steal property and were caught up in vigilante justice.

The complaints against Indians stem from the living habits of the students. Hard up for cash, most of them cram together in small apartments where subletting from one student to another is the norm. Unlike most other Asian students, Indian students live in off-campus dilapidated apartments. One major source of complaint is the cooking habits of the Indians. The use of "hing" is unique to Indians. Not only does "hing" smell up the entire apartment complex, but when mixed with various other spices, the smell permanently camps out in the furniture and clothing.

Australia has about 400,000 foreign students. Malaysians, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis either live in the dorms or in apartments. Unlike the Indians, most of them also enjoy Australian foods. They do not face similar complaints. In a recent poll, most Australians had a negative view of the students from India whom they found obnoxious and very aggressive.

This sort of diplomatic aggressiveness will boomerang. Already there are signs that Australians are tired of the carping. Privately, Aussies are seething at the attitude of many Indian students. Being "in the wrong place at the wrong time," with Australia being the wrong place, is often used as a euphemism for "Indian, go home."

Australians complain that the Indians never take baths and smell of sweat and spices, leaving their aroma everywhere indoors. Unlike other Asians, many Indians are very fond of loitering in front of their apartment complexes with loud music, blaring the latest out of Bollywood. Another unique feature which puts them at odds with the Australians is the fact that most of the Indian students, living away from family restrictions, are very fond of drinking. Australians think this invites trouble for them.

"Dot buster" was a term invented in New Jersey in the '80s. It has now become a derisive term used for Indians in Australia. In England, all Indians became "Pakis", and in the USA they were call "elephant jocks" as well as "Smelly Niggers." One dot buster said, "Nothing worse than a smelly drunk Indian trying to entice Australian women."

The Indians do not have much of a choice than to study overseas. Apart from a few institutions, most Indian universities are overcrowded and do not offer either the instructional facilities or the curriculum needed in the modern world. Many religious institutions in India have opened science and technology institutes, but the main thrust of their education remains Ram Raj."""